@levi I just think we have more to gain from federating then they do.
The UI on the threads app actually does make it clear what server someone is on, but they also donβt allow reposting of anything from fedi, and people you βfollowβ from fedi donβt show up in the normal threads feed. You also canβt share or reply to posts from fedi, all you can do is like posts, which you will only see if they @ mention your threads account.
I do think youβre mostly correct itβd be very hard to reverse things on them with things being how they are currently stacked way in metaβs favor, but itβs not impossible. I guess Iβm just thinking we could try to better strategize around it. I dont think its impossible to beat them, at least not to have their same content without them making money of it in a way that costs them more then it βcostsβ the fediverse, which I would consider a win.
Like I think Meta would not be very happy if a fedi site popped up and just mirrored any meta account you pointed it at⦠they actively do things to prevent this like no longer allowing third party apps and restricting API access, but there are ways around that similar to how a lot of reddit content is mirrored onto lemmy, much to the dismay of the Reddit share holders who want that content to only be viewed on their site with their advertising/tracking attached to make them more money.
Its just something to think about: What if instead of ignoring them, we embraced the idea to an extent that makes their content visible to our users without giving meta the clicks/views they use to get advertisers money. Especially when you consider how much worse advertising gets on their sites year after year, if we offered just an ad free alternative with the same content, they probably wouldnβt be very happy, but itβd be too late to put the genie back into the bottle.
@levi I already know about shadow dragon, that doesnt change my mind, in fact its why I think something like the fedipact is relatively useless in terms of actually preventing any data harvesting.
Not federating with threads doesnt stop law enforcement from contracting a company to make their own mastodon instance that just doesnt announce who is behind it. It doesnβt make Mastodon admins immune from jail if they go against a gag order saying they have to monitor and NOT announce they are monitoring users.
The idea that you can just de-federate from bad actors, implies that you KNOW who the bad actors are, and that is most certainly not something that can be 100% known. Bad actors donβt normally announce they are going to do bad things ahead of time, they just setup an instance quietly and start harvesting data.
Do you honestly believe that fediverse services are not already being actively monitored by law enforcement in every way imaginable? Do you think the people who host instances would refuse to comply with a court order to hand over records, or that they would risk jail time to go against a gag order informing users theyβve been ordered to monitor them?
It just seems naive to me to think that threads is an actual threat to the fediverse in and of itself more so then the fediverse is to Meta/X/Amazon/etc.
The main flaw i see with #fedipact logic is: if meta was really more of a threat to Fedi then Fedi is to #Meta, why wouldnt βProject92β or whatever just start a covert instance runnin mastodon on a random domain name unaffiliated with meta (at least on the surface level) and just harvest all the data they want that way?
I just donβt see that much of a harmful impact in harvesting data that is already public, i get sending a message that we dont want corpos on #fediverse, but maybe we should start considering the harm Fedi can do to meta by using the ole βembrace, extend, extinguishβ route as a sort of uno reverse card and out extend the corporations for once.
Just doing this for testing purposes but It seems like #federation isnβt really a thing on #threads. Someone please correct me if Iβm wrong but I see no way of viewing, following, or interacting with non-threads users from the threads website. I can technically follow threads users from mastodon, but they canβt follow back or even know that im following them.
I guess i really donβt know why i expected it to be more than a performative PR stunt, but it sure seems like even #meta doesnt want people interacting because, if they did then theyβd know they could leave.
Kinda makes me rethink the whole #fedipact thingβ¦ like if the fedi hadnβt completely walled off from them and instead embraced the idea, we might have ended up actually costing meta users instead of just allowing them to stay a walled garden.
@sapientidiot @sapientidiot@threads.net
Does #Pleroma just not support threads addresses at all?
@jeffowski Its a fair point, but Iβm not sure it looks any more dumb then refusing blood transfusions, speaking in tongues , or whatever they call that shit where they harass poison snakes that some christian sects are into doing.
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Who pays for these ridiculous services? I bet companies like this pretty much depend on people who forget they had auto-renew on.
Tried and failed to run Doom Dark Ages on Debian, i guess drivers are too old in stable backports and the ones in testing just crashed the game.
Gave Pop!OS a try mainly because it had nvidia support out of the box, might keep it IDK.
βNo I donβt work in cyber security, Iβm the reason other people work in cyber security.β
Had an fun conversation on my ride home today with someone who was studying to get into cybersec, made me realize need to get over avoiding telling people iβm a hacker.
Its like, IFKYK, and if you donβt then it probably doesnt matter what you think i do anyway.
@drahardja I suspect the reason they got so salty is they have asked people to search for them and gotten a LMGTFY response at some point.
@drahardja LMGTFY is a thing, People do ask other people to search the web for them, except instead of βhey can you search this for meβ its βhey can you answer this question i could answer myself by using a search engineβ. Maybe not for news though.
Oo, glad you noticed, I didnβt even pay attention to the file size thb, but yeah thats a bit large for what it is.
Edited the post to replace it with a 3.2mb version.
Thatβs how its done! Fuck this genocide enabling traitor!